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1 2Information you need to know about netdev 3----------------------------------------- 4 5Q: What is netdev? 6 7A: It is a mailing list for all network-related Linux stuff. This includes 8 anything found under net/ (i.e. core code like IPv6) and drivers/net 9 (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree. 10 11 Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high volume 12 of traffic have their own specific mailing lists. 13 14 The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through 15 VGER ( http://vger.kernel.org/ ) and archives can be found below: 16 17 http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev 18 http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/ 19 20 Aside from subsystems like that mentioned above, all network-related Linux 21 development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on netdev. 22 23Q: How do the changes posted to netdev make their way into Linux? 24 25A: There are always two trees (git repositories) in play. Both are driven 26 by David Miller, the main network maintainer. There is the "net" tree, 27 and the "net-next" tree. As you can probably guess from the names, the 28 net tree is for fixes to existing code already in the mainline tree from 29 Linus, and net-next is where the new code goes for the future release. 30 You can find the trees here: 31 32 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net.git 33 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next.git 34 35Q: How often do changes from these trees make it to the mainline Linus tree? 36 37A: To understand this, you need to know a bit of background information 38 on the cadence of Linux development. Each new release starts off with 39 a two week "merge window" where the main maintainers feed their new 40 stuff to Linus for merging into the mainline tree. After the two weeks, 41 the merge window is closed, and it is called/tagged "-rc1". No new 42 features get mainlined after this -- only fixes to the rc1 content 43 are expected. After roughly a week of collecting fixes to the rc1 44 content, rc2 is released. This repeats on a roughly weekly basis 45 until rc7 (typically; sometimes rc6 if things are quiet, or rc8 if 46 things are in a state of churn), and a week after the last vX.Y-rcN 47 was done, the official "vX.Y" is released. 48 49 Relating that to netdev: At the beginning of the 2-week merge window, 50 the net-next tree will be closed - no new changes/features. The 51 accumulated new content of the past ~10 weeks will be passed onto 52 mainline/Linus via a pull request for vX.Y -- at the same time, 53 the "net" tree will start accumulating fixes for this pulled content 54 relating to vX.Y 55 56 An announcement indicating when net-next has been closed is usually 57 sent to netdev, but knowing the above, you can predict that in advance. 58 59 IMPORTANT: Do not send new net-next content to netdev during the 60 period during which net-next tree is closed. 61 62 Shortly after the two weeks have passed (and vX.Y-rc1 is released), the 63 tree for net-next reopens to collect content for the next (vX.Y+1) release. 64 65 If you aren't subscribed to netdev and/or are simply unsure if net-next 66 has re-opened yet, simply check the net-next git repository link above for 67 any new networking-related commits. You may also check the following 68 website for the current status: 69 70 http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/net-next.html 71 72 The "net" tree continues to collect fixes for the vX.Y content, and 73 is fed back to Linus at regular (~weekly) intervals. Meaning that the 74 focus for "net" is on stabilization and bugfixes. 75 76 Finally, the vX.Y gets released, and the whole cycle starts over. 77 78Q: So where are we now in this cycle? 79 80A: Load the mainline (Linus) page here: 81 82 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git 83 84 and note the top of the "tags" section. If it is rc1, it is early 85 in the dev cycle. If it was tagged rc7 a week ago, then a release 86 is probably imminent. 87 88Q: How do I indicate which tree (net vs. net-next) my patch should be in? 89 90A: Firstly, think whether you have a bug fix or new "next-like" content. 91 Then once decided, assuming that you use git, use the prefix flag, i.e. 92 93 git format-patch --subject-prefix='PATCH net-next' start..finish 94 95 Use "net" instead of "net-next" (always lower case) in the above for 96 bug-fix net content. If you don't use git, then note the only magic in 97 the above is just the subject text of the outgoing e-mail, and you can 98 manually change it yourself with whatever MUA you are comfortable with. 99 100Q: I sent a patch and I'm wondering what happened to it. How can I tell 101 whether it got merged? 102 103A: Start by looking at the main patchworks queue for netdev: 104 105 http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/netdev/list/ 106 107 The "State" field will tell you exactly where things are at with 108 your patch. 109 110Q: The above only says "Under Review". How can I find out more? 111 112A: Generally speaking, the patches get triaged quickly (in less than 48h). 113 So be patient. Asking the maintainer for status updates on your 114 patch is a good way to ensure your patch is ignored or pushed to 115 the bottom of the priority list. 116 117Q: I submitted multiple versions of the patch series, should I directly update 118 patchwork for the previous versions of these patch series? 119 120A: No, please don't interfere with the patch status on patchwork, leave it to 121 the maintainer to figure out what is the most recent and current version that 122 should be applied. If there is any doubt, the maintainer will reply and ask 123 what should be done. 124 125Q: How can I tell what patches are queued up for backporting to the 126 various stable releases? 127 128A: Normally Greg Kroah-Hartman collects stable commits himself, but 129 for networking, Dave collects up patches he deems critical for the 130 networking subsystem, and then hands them off to Greg. 131 132 There is a patchworks queue that you can see here: 133 http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/bundle/davem/stable/?state=* 134 135 It contains the patches which Dave has selected, but not yet handed 136 off to Greg. If Greg already has the patch, then it will be here: 137 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/stable-queue.git 138 139 A quick way to find whether the patch is in this stable-queue is 140 to simply clone the repo, and then git grep the mainline commit ID, e.g. 141 142 stable-queue$ git grep -l 284041ef21fdf2e 143 releases/3.0.84/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch 144 releases/3.4.51/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch 145 releases/3.9.8/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch 146 stable/stable-queue$ 147 148Q: I see a network patch and I think it should be backported to stable. 149 Should I request it via "stable@vger.kernel.org" like the references in 150 the kernel's Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst file say? 151 152A: No, not for networking. Check the stable queues as per above 1st to see 153 if it is already queued. If not, then send a mail to netdev, listing 154 the upstream commit ID and why you think it should be a stable candidate. 155 156 Before you jump to go do the above, do note that the normal stable rules 157 in Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst still apply. So you need to 158 explicitly indicate why it is a critical fix and exactly what users are 159 impacted. In addition, you need to convince yourself that you _really_ 160 think it has been overlooked, vs. having been considered and rejected. 161 162 Generally speaking, the longer it has had a chance to "soak" in mainline, 163 the better the odds that it is an OK candidate for stable. So scrambling 164 to request a commit be added the day after it appears should be avoided. 165 166Q: I have created a network patch and I think it should be backported to 167 stable. Should I add a "Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org" like the references 168 in the kernel's Documentation/ directory say? 169 170A: No. See above answer. In short, if you think it really belongs in 171 stable, then ensure you write a decent commit log that describes who 172 gets impacted by the bugfix and how it manifests itself, and when the 173 bug was introduced. If you do that properly, then the commit will 174 get handled appropriately and most likely get put in the patchworks 175 stable queue if it really warrants it. 176 177 If you think there is some valid information relating to it being in 178 stable that does _not_ belong in the commit log, then use the three 179 dash marker line as described in Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst to 180 temporarily embed that information into the patch that you send. 181 182Q: Are all networking bug fixes backported to all stable releases? 183 184A: Due to capacity, Dave could only take care of the backports for the last 185 2 stable releases. For earlier stable releases, each stable branch maintainer 186 is supposed to take care of them. If you find any patch is missing from an 187 earlier stable branch, please notify stable@vger.kernel.org with either a 188 commit ID or a formal patch backported, and CC Dave and other relevant 189 networking developers. 190 191Q: Someone said that the comment style and coding convention is different 192 for the networking content. Is this true? 193 194A: Yes, in a largely trivial way. Instead of this: 195 196 /* 197 * foobar blah blah blah 198 * another line of text 199 */ 200 201 it is requested that you make it look like this: 202 203 /* foobar blah blah blah 204 * another line of text 205 */ 206 207Q: I am working in existing code that has the former comment style and not the 208 latter. Should I submit new code in the former style or the latter? 209 210A: Make it the latter style, so that eventually all code in the domain of 211 netdev is of this format. 212 213Q: I found a bug that might have possible security implications or similar. 214 Should I mail the main netdev maintainer off-list? 215 216A: No. The current netdev maintainer has consistently requested that people 217 use the mailing lists and not reach out directly. If you aren't OK with 218 that, then perhaps consider mailing "security@kernel.org" or reading about 219 http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros 220 as possible alternative mechanisms. 221 222Q: What level of testing is expected before I submit my change? 223 224A: If your changes are against net-next, the expectation is that you 225 have tested by layering your changes on top of net-next. Ideally you 226 will have done run-time testing specific to your change, but at a 227 minimum, your changes should survive an "allyesconfig" and an 228 "allmodconfig" build without new warnings or failures. 229 230Q: Any other tips to help ensure my net/net-next patch gets OK'd? 231 232A: Attention to detail. Re-read your own work as if you were the 233 reviewer. You can start with using checkpatch.pl, perhaps even 234 with the "--strict" flag. But do not be mindlessly robotic in 235 doing so. If your change is a bug-fix, make sure your commit log 236 indicates the end-user visible symptom, the underlying reason as 237 to why it happens, and then if necessary, explain why the fix proposed 238 is the best way to get things done. Don't mangle whitespace, and as 239 is common, don't mis-indent function arguments that span multiple lines. 240 If it is your first patch, mail it to yourself so you can test apply 241 it to an unpatched tree to confirm infrastructure didn't mangle it. 242 243 Finally, go back and read Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst to be 244 sure you are not repeating some common mistake documented there.